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9/24/2026

Interview: Marcel Helbig and Ties Rabe about PISA 2025

The PISA results paint a clear picture: Student performance in Germany and many Western countries is at an all-time low. What are the real causes of these learning gaps? Is it due to a shortage of teachers, migration, federalism, or excessive media consumption? And above all: How can we turn things around?

In a video interview with Perspective Daily, Ties Rabe (SPD politician and longtime Hamburg Senator for Schools and Vocational Training) and Prof. Dr. Marcel Helbig (educational sociologist at the Leibniz Institute for Educational Trajectories in Bamberg) discuss causes, school reforms, and quality of teaching.

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